yea i tried that. the error says exactly "making this change would require changing code that is locked by a template or a translator. the change will be discarded" i click ok and the progress bar is discarded, it is nowhere in the code. the only way i can get it to go is to detach the template. but when i go to reapply it the head is different and the only place it gives me to line the template up with is the doctitle. i end up having 2 headers and a sidebar that isnt locked no matter what i do... grrrrr.... so for now i just have 3 pages that arent hooked to a template, i have to change em manually